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    • CommentAuthorDray
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2008 edited
     

    Never been a fan of high protein, low carb diets - guess the most famous one being the atkins thingy.
    Unfortunate side effects non diabetic friends have told me :)

    Suppose it's a fact of life, is diet control

    Careful management, yup. I came across this in the Times newspaper (UK). On line version here :-

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/diet_and_fitness/article4523487.ece

    Which kinda goes against the grain, so to speak. But it intrigues me. Any opinions?

    (p.s. I'm a type 2 - and as an afterthought, I use the RSS link option for this forum - makes it easy to keep track of the latest posts
    I'd be happy to do a very short tutorial if anyone's interested )

    Dray :bigsmile:

    • CommentAuthorC.W
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
     

    I am a veggie so wouldn't follow Atkins Diets with all that meat, and there are only so much peanut butter you can eat. Atkins is high protein low carb so baked beans are out too.

    It strikes me that any diet full of one thing or another and very little of anything else is not balanced. I know I have suggested in previous discussions about a GI diet book, but it is only part of a sesnisble eating plan. In our household, cooking is always interesting, big boy has a sea food intolerance, hubby has dairy intolerance, I am diabetic and little boy is a picky eater. I baked at the weekend and had to buy soya milk for cakes, of which I only had a sliver of each.

    I come to this forum for ideas and help, and we are all diabetic. One of the things that realy annoys me is all those people who don't realy understand, yet still say should you be eating that...

    • CommentAuthorDray
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
     

    Yeah, I understand what your saying. This one intrigued me tho'. On reflection, and thinking about what you've said, I don't see myself following the example in the article. Was nice to see though that the chap hadn't capitalised on his idea's though.

    Glad you mentioned baked beans by the way - I don't like tinned beans - prefer to make my own beans-in-tomato-sauce from dried harcourt beans. I love to make my own pickles and chutneys, so its just an extension of that :wink: I find the tinned stuff too sweet for my taste.

    I've always been a bit unclear whether beans are more protein or carb - so they are carb then? I suspect I may be getting nuts and beans confused?

    The only fussy eater amongst my mob is my 11 year old - doesn't like cheese-anything or pastry. Her mum and her went for the weekend to stay with friends, and it was all things in cheese sauce and pasties - so she lived on toast and shepherds pie.:smile:

    • CommentAuthorDray
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2008
     

    I was thinking (I do that :bigsmile:).

    I don't mind admitting I love my meat - not exclusively - I can skin a rabbit, but I have no probs with a veggie meal.

    The veg meals I've cooked seem to fall into three catagories. Root veg, fruit, or grains - I'd include sweetcorn in that - and combinations.

    Most vegetarian meals seem to be high in carbohydrates, and other sweet stuff like tomatoes or other fruits. So how does that work as
    a diabetic? Is it portion size, the mix in meals, padding out with pulses? And is it true that vegetarians need to take vitamin supplements
    to keep healthy? I guess I'm asking in the perceptive of a type two..... Thanks.

    • CommentAuthorC.W
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     

    Things like potatos don't count as vege as they are mainly carbohydrate, although parsnips are high carb too, suedes and turnips, carrotts, infact most root vege are pretty high on the carb front.

    Most things contain a certain ammount of carbohydrate (unless you're something like a citrus fruit or a tomato), so carbs are bloody hard to avoid comepletly.

    Tomatoes, although eaten as a vege are a fruit, and fruits have a higher ammount of natural sugar than vege. Natural suagr is more easily absorbed by the body than the refined variety.

    As long as a diet is balanced, in theory, you shouldn't need to take any kind of supplemtent (including iron which is found mainly in meat). It is more difficult to be balanced if you're a vegan as it means eggs cheese and milk are out or things that contain them.

    The rest of the family eats meat, so I tolerate it in the hope one day they will all decide to be vegetarian too. I don't live in a meat free world, so I try to live and let others eat dead animals if they want to. As for cleaning/gutting a rabbit, I see them as pets and not dinner...

    When I was doing the weight watchers thingy, they could never make up their minds if baked beans were protein or carbs and were nuts protein carbs or fat?! Also stumped the dietician on that one too.

    • CommentAuthorC.W
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2008
     

    i thought about the baked beans again, and am certain I've seen some place a small can counts as one portion of veg too, so I really am confused...

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